Saturday, February 27, 2016

Old Erich Proverb - Change

Only God has the power to truly change our lives.
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  1. kc bobFebruary 28, 2016 at 9:10 AM

    Do we have a part?

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  2. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianFebruary 28, 2016 at 5:55 PM

    Yes, by trusting in and acting on God's power, But God's power makes that possible.

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  3. kc bobFebruary 29, 2016 at 6:06 AM

    Could you give an example of how a person acts on God's power?

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    1. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianMarch 2, 2016 at 8:02 PM

      I would say it involves obedience based on trust. If I trust that God's power works in me and then I do what He commands trusting Him to do it rather then trusting in myself I am acting on God's power.

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    2. kc bobMarch 3, 2016 at 6:34 AM

      So our part is to act in faith and trust God to do the changing?

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    3. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianMarch 3, 2016 at 8:39 PM

      Yes, that is how I understand it.

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    4. kc bobMarch 4, 2016 at 6:12 AM

      Is God's power to change us then limited by our faith?

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    5. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianMarch 4, 2016 at 8:15 PM

      One of the things God's power working in our lives does is work to convince us to have faith, but if we resolutely refuse then it does limit what more God can do to change us.

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    6. kc bobMarch 5, 2016 at 7:51 AM

      You last comment is why I have difficulty in accepting the idea of irresistible grace.

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    7. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianMarch 5, 2016 at 7:43 PM

      I see irresistible grace as something prior to and overarching God's specific workings in our lives. There is a general call and offer of power that is resistible, but God's sovereign will ultimately will determine the result. At any point I have the choice whether to have faith in God of not. But it is God's will that determines what that choice will be.

      It shall be noted here by "limit" I mean limit practically( God chooses not to give power to those who do not trust Him.). I am not referring to something God's power cannot do.

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    8. kc bobMarch 6, 2016 at 5:40 AM

      So human will is invalidated only before we are saved?

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    9. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianMarch 6, 2016 at 7:03 PM

      Before we are saved we caught in the coils of sin and the power of God is required to break us free. Human will is not invalidated, there still needs to be a choice. But we cannot make that choice without God;s intervention.

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    10. kc bobMarch 7, 2016 at 7:54 AM

      I think that God's intervention is always needed in our choices. He leads us to willingly follow by his Spirit but does not drag us by force either before or after we are saved. In that I know that we disagree. And I am okay to agree to disagree on that. ツ

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    11. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianMarch 8, 2016 at 5:33 PM

      If we can agree to disagree I will leave it there. The exact relationship of our will versus God's has always been a hotly contested question.

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