Saturday, September 29, 2012

Old Erich Proverb - Cogs

People are not cogs in the machine to make our programs work.
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  1. kc bobSeptember 29, 2012 at 8:18 AM

    But are we cogs in Gods machine?

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    1. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianSeptember 29, 2012 at 5:45 PM

      No, God does not need us to accomplish His purposes. Rather He chose to create us that we might become His children and might grow into the image of Christ. This is not for His benefit, but our benefit. Now part of that growth process is that we learn to love and help others. And God has chosen to use us to do that. But this is to our benefit that we might grow into the people He intents us to be.

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  2. kc bobOctober 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    I hear you Mike - no one like to be seen as a cog in something greater. Yet I wonder. God may not "need" us to accomplish his purposes on earth but it seems that we (i.e. humanity) are the chief way that he has always used to love his creation. Even he felt is necessary to take on human form to show us the way of love. SO maybe being a cog in a divine love machine is a pretty good thing?

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    1. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianOctober 1, 2012 at 7:27 PM

      That's a interesting perspective. My main purpose is to avoid the idea that we are merely interchangeable and disposal parts whose only purpose is to make the system work. I do not believe God sees us that way and I am convinced we must avoid seeing others that way.

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    2. kc bobOctober 2, 2012 at 8:50 AM

      On that we agree Mike. We are a part of his magnificent plan but we are not divine robots with no free will.

      PS: Captcha is killing me. I cannot make out the letters half the time I try to comment. But I will try again. :)

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    3. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianOctober 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

      I believe in God's sovereignty, but I also believe this does not make us robots or cogs or white mice in a maze. I realize there is a mystery to this, I am convinced there is a mystery in any attempt to reconcile God's control of the world with human choice.

      (I have decided to make the experiment of turning off captcha. Maybe I will get more comments. Maybe I will get more comments I do not want. We will see.)

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  3. kc bobOctober 4, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    On that we agree Mike. It does seem that God has ceded some of his sovereignty to humans on a micro level while retaining sovereignty on a macro level.

    Thanks for making it easier to comment. I suggest that you turn off anonymous comments. When I did that my spam went to nil because only real people were allowed to comment.

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  4. Mike Erich the Mad TheologianOctober 4, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Thank you, I will have to remember that if I start getting spam.

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